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@surfmeister 486503 wrote:
Skönt att se att man behåller en hel del shapes (Allwave, Freewave) och tar bort lite av den hysteriska årsmodelshysterin. Varför ändra redan fantastiskt bra brädor? Seglade Allwave 82 och 92 i El Medano för några veckor sen och blev grymt imponerad. Rekommenderas starkt!
Ressesionen i verdensøkonomien rammer også windsurfindustrien, så man må sparer hvor man kan.
…Egentligt ret modigt at RRD netop i år næsten drukner markedet i modeller. Ender de mon med at knække halsen? F2 har jo lige været ude i nær-konkurs.-I Danmark har nye tal iøvrigt vist, at faldet i årsforbruget hos befolkningen (sidste år til nu) er det største siden 1977!!!!
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@Bjornen 485860 wrote:
Vilka storlekar på segel och brädor har våra svenska hjältar seglat dessa dagar ?
//Björn
Ved ikke hvad AB og de andre svenskere sejler med men den eneste danske deltager Roger Henriksen (Den-86) (Loftsails) har vist mest sejlet 6,8m2 og ifølge ham var den str den mest populære på stranden -ihvertfald den første dag.
Hos kvinderne er der iøvrigt aktuelt et super close race mellem Karin Jaggi og Valerie Ghibaudo. De ligger aktuelt a point med Ghibaudo som nr 1 med højest top speed (VG: 35,14 vs JK: 33.89).
Det skal lige siges at Valerie bare vejer 66kg…
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Monty Spindlers Loftsails vil fungere rigtig godt.
Tjek deres LIP wave på http://www.loftsails.com/kam_pages/1/e/5.phpDeres 4,7er er et superlækkert sejl.
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Har sejlet witchcraft 74 med både standard setup (11,5 foran 15,5 bag) og pro setup (12,5 foran og 14,0 bag).
Den mest karakteristiske forskel er at den større centerfinne (standard) giver mere følelsen af ”normalt” waveboard (single-fin).
Pro setuppet giver et tydeligt mere agilt og levende board dog med lidt større tendens til spinout. Ingen forskel i følelsen ved topspeed-blasting, hvor indtrykket er mere kontrol i overpower end ved vanlig singlefin.
Tri-fin setuppet giver generelt et fantastisk drive og grip i turnet, som gør, at man kan ”arbejde” hårdere med sine topturns helt oppe i lippen, uden af det ender i et spinout-crash i skummet. Især oplever man forskellen, når man så prøver at sejlet en normal singlefin og man så pludselig bliver ”straffet”.
Foretrækker selv pro-setuppet efter at have sejlet begge.
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To største websites med artikler/forum/brugtmarked osv:
http://www.xboard.dk/wind
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Vil ikke spamme Steffo med pics men I får lige den her sequence fra en fin jaunardag i Havstokken:
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Havstokken har rocket godt de seneste par uger efter at have været i dvale siden vinteren. Sent efterår/vinter er bedst. Om sommeren kan der være sygt crowded -værre end en god dag i Gislöv!
Her lidt fra d 10 juni:
..og d 11 juni:
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Nordsjælland har budt på gode forhold på det seneste.
Især d. 23/6:
[IMG]http://riders.dk/Files/Users/user479/Galleri/1303/DSC06029.JPG[/IMG]Mere på flg gallerier fra http://www.riders.dk :
http://riders.dk/Default.aspx?ID=186&gallery=1295
http://riders.dk/Default.aspx?ID=186&gallery=1298
http://riders.dk/Default.aspx?ID=186&gallery=1299
http://riders.dk/Default.aspx?ID=186&gallery=1300
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Sydafrika Rules!
Tag afsted i dec/januar så er forholdene ofte lidt mindre (størst bølger sent på sæsonen).
Desuden er der altid mulighed for flat water freestyle på søen bag Sunset beach og endelig naturligvis Langebaan, hvis man skal have det super easy og kan klare en ferie med tyske familiesurfere;-).Hvis du skal have nyt udstyr kan der også spares mange penge, især når rand’en ligger lavt (som den gjorde her til vinter). Kender een der købte nye 2008 North-sejl for ca 2200 danske kroner/sejl!!
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Witchcraft på nordkysten af Sjælland (45 min fra Köbenhavn) i løbet af vinteren:cool2:
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En lille kommentar:
Har nu sejlet witchcraft 74L siden januar. Både i Cape Town, Gislövshammar og nordkysten af Sjælland (Havstokken m.m) i vind fra 3,5-5,2m2 (cross off, side og crosson). Og bliver bare gladere og gladere for boardet hver gang jeg er ude.Har prøvet den i to finne-versioner (pro og standard) med hhv 3 meget ens finner (pro)og 1 stor og 2 mindre(standard).
Pro setuppet er klart mest dynamisk og min foretrukne. Men standard vil nok passe de fleste, da det kræver mindre tilvænning.Min konklusion er at den fungerer fint i de fleste forhold men det især er et board man får glæde af, hvis man især er dedikeret til waveriding. Meget karakteristisk drive i sine turns, som man ikke opnår med singlefins og superkontrol ved highspeed bottomturns i store bølger.
Har meget wide stance, som hjælper med at man for den rigtige position.
Har nok lidt sværere ved at plane igennem end et alm stubby board men har også en ret smal og tynd hæk. Synes ikke den planer dårligere end en traditionel pintail (har sammenlignet den med 2008 tabou dacurve 73, som klart planede dårligere!)
På http://www.witchcraft.nu anbefaler man også evt at vælge strørrelsen over hvad man normalt sejler med.
Glæder mig til at prøve 84eren (som er bestilt:cool2: ). Bliver et perfekt board med lidt ekstra volumen til gusty offshore reefbreak forhold.
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@IrieMan 459414 wrote:
Apropå tri-fins, är det ingen som har provat Witchcraft-brädorna (Fuerteventura märke)? Dom har ju kört med tre fenor i evigheter. Ska funka riktigt bra säger localsen där. Dom tar höjd väldigt bra + har bra fart och samtidigt väldigt svängiga.
Irie Man
Har sejlet witchcrafts tri-fins siden i vinter.
Kommer aldrig tilbage på en de ’gamle’ boards. Det er sikkert. Overlegene evner til at tage højde og extrem livlig følelse på bølgen. Og i whitewater mister man aldrig grippet i feks topturn.
Tror det er det tætteste man kan komme på real surfing feeling.
Og så er kontruktionen markedets stærkeste med 60%!! Dyneema i HDD modellen. Dyneema er dobbelt så stærkt som technora og kevlar! Med andre ord suveræne brædder! -
I følge BOARD’S test blev witchcraft beskrevet som et hurtigt board. Men især up-wind performance blev rost. Under Board’s forum er der en diskussion om wave-riding (bla top turn) m tri-fin setuppet. De fleste var begejstret for grippet. Men i sidste ende bliver det en smagssag. Lige som med stubbyer vs trads.
AHD er et andet mærke der leger med tri-fin set-up for at overføre ”surfshapes” til windsurf:
http://www.a-h-d.com/boards/windsurf/2007/seal/?ahdid=a8nc1vheo99kgsdve1oqjg6ds7
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Fandt følgende info om tri-fin contra single og twinfin på [url]www.witchcraft.nu:[/url]
The story behind the Witchcraft Trifin’
Our Trifin is designed to give max. performance: manoeuvrablility AND early planing/upwind ability. Our trifin gives you more finarea with less leverage. A 12.5 sidefin with 15.5 centrefin set-up will give you roughly the planing and upwind ability of a 24 singlefin. However it will turn like a 19 or 20 singlefin whereas a 24 singlefin would be much stiffer and harder to turn.
Even if you FEEL the fins (-leverage) less as a bigger singlefin, making the board more maneuvrable, the upwind performance is still there.
If you try to lift a weight close to your body it is much easier to handle (read: maneuvrability), still it is the same weight (read: planing and upwind performance)…….The Tri Fin combines the best of Singlefins and Twinsers.
The qualities of our Trifin:
You can get planing earlier
You can get upwind better
You can turn shorter and easier
You can catch more waves
You can get more turns on a wave
You can sail in/through shallower water
When overpowered or in a high speed bottomturn the board won´t start tailwalking
When a fin spins out or breaks you still have 2 more
Our Trifin is not just for sideshore conditions, on the contrary, the biggest benefit is in on-shore and/or light wind conditions.
You can vary a lot more with the set up. Bigger centrefins and smaller sidefins will give more singlefin feeling (control) whereas 3 similar sized fins will give more surfboard feeling (manoeuvrability).
Our Trifin is not slower, not more than a singlefin with the same finarea would be. Just as when using a bigger singlefin, by having more finarea, on a downwind reach you might be a little slower as a singlefin (with less finarea), on a half wind course at least as fast and upwind our Trifin is faster, which is when you most need it. On spots where there is a rip you will be going upwind nearly all the time. So with our Trifin the average speed will actually be higher, especially when you need it most: in lighter conditions, when going upwind or in strong currents.
Trifin is better for freestyle/backwards sliding than single wavefins and have a lot more planing and upwind performance and control as pure short freestylefins.
Trifin is not hard to sail, for the less experienced sailor a bigger Trifin set-up will help planing even more and give less control problems due to the shorter lever (preventing board riding-up)
Tri Fins do require a modern upright sailing stance with a high boom and driving more of the front foot and mastfoot rather than a outward leaning slalom style.
For those conditions when you´d like to have max. control and/or less maneuvrability or planing ability (possibly the case in places with a lot of wind and/or wave power), or for lean back flat water blasting, you can still change it into singlefin.
Read the user manual and tuning guide for further tips on fin set-up.The development of the Witchcraft TrifinTrifins or thrusters have been around for a long time but were usually used for specific reasons; to give extra grip on the inside rail in combination with wider or assymmetrical boards, to create extra drag for more control in places such as the river Gorge. Those systems are usually in combination with a normal size singlefin and the sidefin completely assymmetric, completely flat on the inside like on surfboards. Even if it did solve the specific problem, there was extra drag and none or very little added performance in early planing or upwind ability.
Our Trifin was revived again around ´95 due to the need of having boards that plane early and go upwind well AND still turn well. Here in the north of Fuerte we usually have around around force 5 to 6 in summer and between 3 and 7 in winter. However wavesize does not depend that much on windstrength, especially in winter. You can be sailing with a 5.8 in masthigh waves or higher, which are much cleaner when there is less wind to create some of those “best day ever”.
So to make use of these conditions you´d like enough finarea to get upwind but a big singlefin is just death to maneuvrability, something very important to be able to have fun on the wave as well…..
At the time twinsers were in fashion, we have been experimenting with them too but found it not an ideal solution. It was very unpredictable, one fin was always prone to catch air when turning, not very nice when bottom turning with tons of water about to drop on you. Or if the fins were closer together they were disturbing eachothers waterflow or in eachothers shade.
Using what we had learned from the twinser and surfboards, allready from the first prototype we found the trifin much better, it had the best of both worlds, the control of a singlefin with the maneuvrability of the twinser or even better.
In riding spots you simply get a lot more waves if you get upwind better. In some very light riding conditions it has happened people with singlefin could not get to the peak whereas our trifin boards were ripping one wave after another……We get asked often that if our Trifin system is so good why other brands do not use trifin. As we don´t know how other shapers work, think and test, this is hard to answer. What we can say is that opposite to a singlefin, options to finpositions, fin profiles, flex and cant and tow angles are infinite, giving a lot of room to setting them up wrong or less than ideal. There can be many differences between one trifin system and the next!
We found the sidefins with a slightly flatter inside profile working best, it lets the water pass better between the fins and gives the inside fin more hold on hard turns without compromising planing and upwind performance. All fins have the same relative profile thickness and the same flex so they all do the same amount of work at the same speed. This way the finarea can be reduced to a minimum to reduce drag and increase efficiency.
After surfboard shaper Dean Geraghty from Capetown came out with his 4way fin system (http://www.4wfs.com) in 2005, this gave us the opportunity to experiment with fin angles much easier and faster. This finsystem is not strong enough in the long run for windsurfing but for a shaper it is heaven; through a couple of screws you can change fin angles on the beach and sail out again. Before you would have had to build 3 or more exactly the same boards, each with different finangles and take them all to the beach.
With this finsystem we could do a lot of testing and finetuning to fin angles to reduce drag and increase upwind performance and maneuvrability even more. Due to the better understanding and knowledge of the Trifin, we can even adapt finangles to the various boardtypes/bottomshapes.
